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		<title>By: Alberto Bolton</title>
		<link>http://gametheoryonline.com/2010/07/21/game-journalism-surely-we-can-do-better/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>Alberto Bolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 03:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reads like a manifesto for this site. Which is exciting because games journalism is pretty embarrassing most of the time, this site just earned a place in my bookmarks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reads like a manifesto for this site. Which is exciting because games journalism is pretty embarrassing most of the time, this site just earned a place in my bookmarks</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua George</title>
		<link>http://gametheoryonline.com/2010/07/21/game-journalism-surely-we-can-do-better/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe what is needed is an outlet for the mature gamer to get mature information.  As John said above, what is the big market for video games magazines?  The 20somethings.

I will admit I am 28.  However, I appreciate the more mature reviews and reports.  I just found out about this page today and am loving it!

Also, I would like to give a shout out to one of my more favorite game reporters.  Stephen Totilo of Kotaku is probably one of the most prolific journalist of games today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe what is needed is an outlet for the mature gamer to get mature information.  As John said above, what is the big market for video games magazines?  The 20somethings.</p>
<p>I will admit I am 28.  However, I appreciate the more mature reviews and reports.  I just found out about this page today and am loving it!</p>
<p>Also, I would like to give a shout out to one of my more favorite game reporters.  Stephen Totilo of Kotaku is probably one of the most prolific journalist of games today.</p>
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		<title>By: elevenwinters</title>
		<link>http://gametheoryonline.com/2010/07/21/game-journalism-surely-we-can-do-better/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>elevenwinters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO! This idea you have that video game journalism needs to grow up is bullshit. We don&#039;t need the CNN OR New Yorker of video games because we should not bring the medium down to those levels. Look I understand that bad writing and bad journalists are out there. Hell they are in every aspect of all news not just video game related stories. I also understand the call for different types of stories not just previews and reviews. But this is entertainment and the journalism needs to reflect that as well. People don&#039;t watch CNN or Fox News or read Reuters because it&#039;s fun. They do it to stay informed. But if I&#039;m going to take time out of my day to read a story about video games then it needs to be entertaining. 

I realize that we need to change the way people see the industry but we can&#039;t do that by changing who gamers are or the lifestyle and culture. Video game Journalism is a fairly new medium that is ever evolving. We need to figure out how to make it work for everyone without changing what it is to be a gamer. The stories you are asking for about the production of games are there and one way that makes them very unique is that they are coming from the ones who are producing them. Irrational is a great example of this with the Irrational Behavior podcast and the news stories they post but they are not the only ones who do this far from it. I understand it is way to much to ask someone to go to every developers website to get there news stories but this is one way we can try to improve to bring these stories together. Also look at how different this is to movies or books. With those mediums there are just rumors, reviews, and statistic stories and that&#039;s about it.

This is new territory for everyone and we need to improve but we can&#039;t forget who we are or what you are writing about. Yes we need to write about cosplay and otaku, and yes we need to keep the slang and the terms however immature they may be. We need to keep the not so inside jokes about the industry.No we shouldn&#039;t be derogatory, bias, rude, or hateful to anyone or anything. But we shouldn&#039;t shy away from more mature areas either sex and violence are part of every industry out there and there should be articles written on them in the gaming industry as well. We need to learn to be more welcoming into people who are just getting into gaming and a little more understanding. Video games will never be on par with any &quot;news outlet&quot; out there. It will not happen. It never has with books or movies either. If you want to write about video games then write for the gamers not people who you feel look down on you for your passions. 

I&#039;m not a journalist. Hell this is probably the first thing I have written in years. I&#039;m not a hardcore gamer either. I play when I can. But I love the industry and I love to read about all aspects of it. We can&#039;t forget the most important thing here is that this is entertainment. The journalism should be entertaining as well and it should speak to it&#039;s audience not who we are wanting to be it&#039;s audience.Joe down the street is never going to care to read a video game related post ever. Gamers are. Most people have a preconceived notion about everything and there are not many times people are going to change there views. The reason the average gamer is now 35 is because the people who think games are the devil are dying off and new generations who know and understand better are coming in. Maybe we just need to play the waiting game.    

Sorry for rambling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO! This idea you have that video game journalism needs to grow up is bullshit. We don&#8217;t need the CNN OR New Yorker of video games because we should not bring the medium down to those levels. Look I understand that bad writing and bad journalists are out there. Hell they are in every aspect of all news not just video game related stories. I also understand the call for different types of stories not just previews and reviews. But this is entertainment and the journalism needs to reflect that as well. People don&#8217;t watch CNN or Fox News or read Reuters because it&#8217;s fun. They do it to stay informed. But if I&#8217;m going to take time out of my day to read a story about video games then it needs to be entertaining. </p>
<p>I realize that we need to change the way people see the industry but we can&#8217;t do that by changing who gamers are or the lifestyle and culture. Video game Journalism is a fairly new medium that is ever evolving. We need to figure out how to make it work for everyone without changing what it is to be a gamer. The stories you are asking for about the production of games are there and one way that makes them very unique is that they are coming from the ones who are producing them. Irrational is a great example of this with the Irrational Behavior podcast and the news stories they post but they are not the only ones who do this far from it. I understand it is way to much to ask someone to go to every developers website to get there news stories but this is one way we can try to improve to bring these stories together. Also look at how different this is to movies or books. With those mediums there are just rumors, reviews, and statistic stories and that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>This is new territory for everyone and we need to improve but we can&#8217;t forget who we are or what you are writing about. Yes we need to write about cosplay and otaku, and yes we need to keep the slang and the terms however immature they may be. We need to keep the not so inside jokes about the industry.No we shouldn&#8217;t be derogatory, bias, rude, or hateful to anyone or anything. But we shouldn&#8217;t shy away from more mature areas either sex and violence are part of every industry out there and there should be articles written on them in the gaming industry as well. We need to learn to be more welcoming into people who are just getting into gaming and a little more understanding. Video games will never be on par with any &#8220;news outlet&#8221; out there. It will not happen. It never has with books or movies either. If you want to write about video games then write for the gamers not people who you feel look down on you for your passions. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a journalist. Hell this is probably the first thing I have written in years. I&#8217;m not a hardcore gamer either. I play when I can. But I love the industry and I love to read about all aspects of it. We can&#8217;t forget the most important thing here is that this is entertainment. The journalism should be entertaining as well and it should speak to it&#8217;s audience not who we are wanting to be it&#8217;s audience.Joe down the street is never going to care to read a video game related post ever. Gamers are. Most people have a preconceived notion about everything and there are not many times people are going to change there views. The reason the average gamer is now 35 is because the people who think games are the devil are dying off and new generations who know and understand better are coming in. Maybe we just need to play the waiting game.    </p>
<p>Sorry for rambling.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gametheoryonline.com/2010/07/21/game-journalism-surely-we-can-do-better/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the average &quot;gamer&quot; may be in his thirties, do we think the average game journalism reader is anything beyond 20? Many of the comments from various high-traffic websites are littered with suggestions that these journalists, as flawed/immature as their writing may be, is right on par with their targeted audience.

I hope the gaming journalism world wakes up and shakes up the medium. I worry the industry is a part of a bigger business model (the AAA pays you to hype their game until it&#039;s time to review the game). I think it is more up to the gaming journalism audience to shape the future of gaming news: go to quality websites and blogs like gamasutra and indiesuperstar. 

This also brings to bear another issue: will the public ever realize the subjectivity of previews/reviews? Unfortunately, the things that plague the gaming industry plague every other consumer-driven industry in the USA: music, movies, etc. When will the sheep herding stop? When money doesn&#039;t matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the average &#8220;gamer&#8221; may be in his thirties, do we think the average game journalism reader is anything beyond 20? Many of the comments from various high-traffic websites are littered with suggestions that these journalists, as flawed/immature as their writing may be, is right on par with their targeted audience.</p>
<p>I hope the gaming journalism world wakes up and shakes up the medium. I worry the industry is a part of a bigger business model (the AAA pays you to hype their game until it&#8217;s time to review the game). I think it is more up to the gaming journalism audience to shape the future of gaming news: go to quality websites and blogs like gamasutra and indiesuperstar. </p>
<p>This also brings to bear another issue: will the public ever realize the subjectivity of previews/reviews? Unfortunately, the things that plague the gaming industry plague every other consumer-driven industry in the USA: music, movies, etc. When will the sheep herding stop? When money doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://gametheoryonline.com/2010/07/21/game-journalism-surely-we-can-do-better/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely see where you&#039;re coming from with this. As long as I&#039;ve been freelancing, I&#039;ve been in contact with the Chicago Tribune continually pushing them to try and cover the games industry again in a mature manner without coming off as contrived or cliche. However, it&#039;s been to no avail. All the same, games are going to continue to evolve and the gaming community that initially grew up with them might want to try and do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely see where you&#8217;re coming from with this. As long as I&#8217;ve been freelancing, I&#8217;ve been in contact with the Chicago Tribune continually pushing them to try and cover the games industry again in a mature manner without coming off as contrived or cliche. However, it&#8217;s been to no avail. All the same, games are going to continue to evolve and the gaming community that initially grew up with them might want to try and do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: H. B. Duran</title>
		<link>http://gametheoryonline.com/2010/07/21/game-journalism-surely-we-can-do-better/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>H. B. Duran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly agree with you on many levels. Also in my 30&#039;s, I do take the journalism and reporting of video game news very seriously. It is an ever-growing expanse of ideas and potential and it&#039;s not just Hollywood that&#039;s taken notice. I&#039;ve had the pleasure of reporting on behalf of a female perspective and discussing the business of gaming with developers and talent throughout the years. I, too hope that video game news continues to develop and mature, as appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly agree with you on many levels. Also in my 30&#8242;s, I do take the journalism and reporting of video game news very seriously. It is an ever-growing expanse of ideas and potential and it&#8217;s not just Hollywood that&#8217;s taken notice. I&#8217;ve had the pleasure of reporting on behalf of a female perspective and discussing the business of gaming with developers and talent throughout the years. I, too hope that video game news continues to develop and mature, as appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Rowe</title>
		<link>http://gametheoryonline.com/2010/07/21/game-journalism-surely-we-can-do-better/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s time we all grow up.&quot;

No. I&#039;ll leave that to you. Zombies, pirates, and I suppose even Mr. Norris are fun, and and that&#039;s why I entered this business; to write about my favorite hobby and do a job that I enjoy. Do you really want more coverage of video game economics? Go ahead, start writing.

Intellectual writing about video games is very prevalent (just ask the numerous freelancers of GamePro, EGM, Bitmob, The Escapist, and so on). When you visit more humorous sites, do you simply scoff, or do you look at the provocative undertones many of them carry? My guess is the latter.

The fact of the matter is that many people have ran with this idea (so don&#039;t start trying to take credit now), and failed, in large part because such coverage is little more than masturbatory ego-stroking. We end up writing for each other, and not the gamers that support us (I have bills to pay too). And guess what, many gamers enjoy zombies, and pirates, and downing six-packs while shaving lightning bolts into their mullets.

If you want to approach video games from a purely intellectual angle, all the power to you. But, first you might want to get off that high horse and stop trying to cram everyone else into your mold. Like it or not, there&#039;s room for everyone in this pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s time we all grow up.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. I&#8217;ll leave that to you. Zombies, pirates, and I suppose even Mr. Norris are fun, and and that&#8217;s why I entered this business; to write about my favorite hobby and do a job that I enjoy. Do you really want more coverage of video game economics? Go ahead, start writing.</p>
<p>Intellectual writing about video games is very prevalent (just ask the numerous freelancers of GamePro, EGM, Bitmob, The Escapist, and so on). When you visit more humorous sites, do you simply scoff, or do you look at the provocative undertones many of them carry? My guess is the latter.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that many people have ran with this idea (so don&#8217;t start trying to take credit now), and failed, in large part because such coverage is little more than masturbatory ego-stroking. We end up writing for each other, and not the gamers that support us (I have bills to pay too). And guess what, many gamers enjoy zombies, and pirates, and downing six-packs while shaving lightning bolts into their mullets.</p>
<p>If you want to approach video games from a purely intellectual angle, all the power to you. But, first you might want to get off that high horse and stop trying to cram everyone else into your mold. Like it or not, there&#8217;s room for everyone in this pool.</p>
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